(Aug 13, 2019, 08:28 am)pa kettle Wrote:

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(Aug 12, 2019, 17:08 pm)Headbanger Wrote: Before I delve too far into this, you should really cite your sources. The first article you copy pasted is already so biased in its first couple sentences as to be taken seriously. The most legitimate news organizations tend to make an earnest effort to minimize biased language.

A handful of quick rebuttals:

The U.S. President does not have the power to wave a wand and change the economy. Trump did not make new jobs, the economy made new jobs. The US economy operates in cycles and that we happen to be in a good cycle does not mean that Trump had anything to do with it. He loves taking the credit for it, but there's really no reason to believe that Trump has anything to do with the state of the economy being good right now.

The tax cuts passed by congress and signed into law by Trump have, as predicted, led to an increase in the federal deficit to an alarming level.

That the stock market hits new highs on a regular basis is not shocking. That's standard behavior for the stock market, to grow! That is not a pro Trump point so much as it is an expected behavior of the US economy.

The TPP was basically dead already by the time Trump took office, with Hillary promising its demise as well. Not really a credit to him.

As I stated already, you won't believe anything I post.

(Aug 13, 2019, 08:28 am)pa kettle Wrote: Its more than that. I have absolutely no good reason to accept anything you posted based on 1) No source citation 2) Very biased language indicative of no sense of objectivity about the Trump presidency, and 3) That precursory reading of your copy pasta revealed severe flaws in reasoning, indicating a lack of due diligence was done on the source, and quite possibly a lack of understanding of the underlying figures.

(Aug 13, 2019, 20:06 pm)Headbanger Wrote: I'm skeptical that Trump will be impeached or pursued after his presidency ends. Impeaching him now might be a bad move, because it puts Mike Pence in the incumbent seat in time for the election, and Pelosi doesn't seem to be too interested in putting together an impeachment process. And a somewhat odd tradition of an incoming president issuing an executive pardon on the outgoing president means that he may not see a trial for anything he did prior to leaving office.

Also, Executive, it looks as though you quoted me, but your quote tags show pa kettle.

(Aug 14, 2019, 08:53 am)Executive Wrote: I sort-of agree regarding Nancy Pelosi.  When she was first House Speaker in 2007, she failed to bring impeachment against George W. Bush for his administration going to war in Iraq due to their false intel plus the CIA torture that went on in Guantonomo Bay.   However, the list of Trump crimes and blatantly bad behavior ( such as the time The Orange One occasionally admitting on TV what he did wrong , firing James Comey because of the Mueller investigation into him ),  combined with what is now over 100 House Democrats pushing for impeachment.... Pelosi now seems to be heading in that direction as well.  She needs to stop worrying about those House members running in Red states getting re-elected, and do what the Constitution demands : Impeach.

(Aug 13, 2019, 14:34 pm)Lipex Wrote: 'As I stated already, you won't believe anything I post.'

like whats comes out of Trumps's mouth

on average 20 lies a day, a day !

(Aug 14, 2019, 08:53 am)Executive Wrote: No, I only quoted Pa Kettle and nobody else in my previous post.

Quote:Again an impeachment inquiry is not a full impeachment.

(Aug 14, 2019, 15:16 pm)pa kettle Wrote: I have one last fact you can not argue with. President Trump won and he is your president. If you don't like it, leave America.