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RE: stts2's politics thread - stts2 - Nov 18, 2023
I already wrote about the crazy details this past week, and how we will still get by it for now. But every day is something different and today is no exception. People pile the hate on Elon Musk, but boy does he make some sweet stuff. And not just trinket stuff either. I'm no greenie, but I see the greatness in electric cars. And Musk is giving the world a reason why they can work. Because he's making them work. Better than anybody ever has. And now he started a big catch up race. So everybody else can build them as good as his. So one day if we don't screw the pooch, all cars will be electric and there won't be car wrecks any more. I see that as a good thing.
And the other Musk wonder is those amazing rockets. He is doing it. Way better than anybody ever rocketed before. And they too can help save the human race. The second launch of that giant rocket was spectacular. Surviving thru all of the high pressure events to get to space. So that damn thing is really well built, on only it's second test flight. It looks to me like that quickly built hot staging setup kicked the whole booster sideways and set off the self destruct. A well built rocket may have been blown up. Hard to say about the upper stage, But it flew into space, so it might have run into flight control issues that also triggered the self destruct. But the whole thing worked until most of the fuel was gone. And that covers pretty much all the stresses that rocket will face. On just the second flight. Spectacular. NASA has to know that they are out of the rocket business, and we got no more taxes for them to throw away. And all of mankind today was watching hope shooting into space. Because when shit hits the fan, it would be nice if we could get the hell out, at least for awhile. Brought to all of human kind by Elon Musk. People need to quit hating on that guy. And to think, Amber Herd dated Musk, as she said in court, just to kill time. It's just amazing Musk would want to save anybody on this planet. Especially these days.
Anyways, that Apple series "For All Mankind" seems pretty good. Since it's Apple, there's more reality to it, since there wouldn't be Apple if their stuff didn't work. As opposed to Hollywood and their abject fairytale stories. So Al ***** saved the world. A crazy idea for sure. But it's kept rather real. America and Russia may be working together, but Apple still paints it as a strictly business relationship. Like what our space partnership is now. And North Korea is not trusted. And Al ***** wasn't going to fix any of that. Can't tell where China is in all this. So it will be an interesting series with a bit of everything. It's a story of what the world would be like if things with space had been different. Obviously the way it was, we never really got anywhere after the moon landings, and it seemed like we were heading down the liberal rabbit hole. But liberals never really liked space, so that angle didn't make sense for a space show. JFK liked space, but every other liberal wanted the space money for social programs. So this ss a show of what if liberals liked space, hah. Now there you go. A liberal I could vote for. And sure enough, everybody liked Kennedy. Except all the people that shot him. Oh and the Ruskies hated him too. Treated him like a dumb kid. Russians amped up the nukes and that German wall on Kennedys watch. But the Ruskies were already out of control and Kennedy gave them room to run out of steam. That's the way I look at it. Kennedy didn't aggravate the bees any more than they already were. But was ready to put his foot down when Russia tried to arm Cuba. Kennedy seemed to be heading for pragmatic greatness. Now we never know what could have been. Maybe like this TV show. Hah
It would be awesome if everybody could bury the hatchet and make space like a second home. Then this series could end up being very much like reality. With all the adventure that goes with it. But humans are always thinking they need to fight to survive. So we can't get to the bounty that comes from trust. And Apple is making that part of this series. The "what if we trusted each other" factor. Oh man the sky aint the limit if we were all not just friends, but like brothers. I had to binge watch the past seasons because I forgot. But this series was doing it all. The things that blew up because of back stabbing, and the things that bloomed from brotherhood. I think it's an awesome idea for this show. To let people see both sides of it and go Hmmm. Because if SpaceX was blown up thru betrayal, you may as well kiss human space travel goodbye. The rest of the worlds problems will suck down all the money, like what's already going down. So exploring the consequences of mans trust issues on TV is way more important than all the crazy woke stuff that people today are freakin about.
Somebody on a torrent forum, picking on this, called this show an inclusive fest. But it's not the point of the stories, so it's not a distraction. Kinda like the old Star Trek. It was inclusive too, but nobody was distracted by it. And lots of social issues too for thought. But there would be, in real life, when building a society on another world. Somebody has to be the boss, and he will have rules. When you watch Musk now, you can figure what the rules on his Mars would be. Everybody working hard and nobody on welfare. Hard to say what the pay would be, but certainly no union. Because any mistake can destroy everything, so everybody pulls their own weight and then some. SpaceX and Tesla people don't seem to have many complaints. Other than Musks mouth action messing up their stock share prices. But that's more about the damage of the woke machine. Musks mouth action doesn't crash rockets or make more Teslas burn. It's the woke BS trying to take control of Musk. Trump can do something about that. Probably better than Desantis. Desantis wants a woke war. Trump just wants everybody to get along. Woke is mostly a fad that will fade into something practical on it's own. If people would simply stop stirring up the bees. Just think of trying to be woke on a Mars colony. It just doesn't work. Nobody is going to say I want a "binary" person to fix my space suit. I mean that's how ridiculous woke is. On Mars, the most skilled space suit fixer is going to be highly in demand. And not a woke idea is going to make a difference. So you see why woke is just the latest craze. People cancel me all over the internet. For being a Trumpster. But it doesn't cost me a dime in the living I make. Because I'm the guy that can make anything work. And I'm cheaper than everybody else. Bud Light would not be having their problems if they were a much cheaper beer. Then the buyers wouldn't care who shilled their beer. And lets face it. Bud Light is not the most wonderful tasting beer out there. More like alcohol water. I drink it now because it's nearly free, hah. But my tasty beer of choice is hands down Killians red Irish ale. A most wonderful beer that puts all those IPAs to shame. I don't like those over priced really bitter beers. And I'd still buy it, even if it went woke. Because it tastes so damn good. And boy I would really love the price crash. I'd stock up on 10 years worth of that beer. Pack it away in the dark cool corner of my basement. A few bottle would go bad, but most would age very nicely. It's these beer kegs that can't age beer. Oh yea, Killians is bottled beer. Makes all the difference. And a bad cap is what would take down a few bottles.
Ok, now back to the earth shit. The mystery prosecutor, investigating Bidens classified documents taken while he was Vice president and President, says no reasonable prosecutor would press charges against Biden. hah. Instead a stern instruction session would take place to educate President Biden. The media talking heads are exclaiming with great relief that they knew all along that the Biden persecution was simply a nothing burger. And now the time can be spent on more serious matters. Umm, yea. Prosecuting Trump for the same thing...
There's another video of another Judge Napolitano interview, and he says he knows Bidens prosecutor very well and smells a rat here. He said Bidens prosecutor is a pit bull like Jack Smith. Yet he only interviewed Biden for 5 hours and then we only heard crickets. He thinks something funny is going on here. He thinks there is a deal in the works. No charges if Biden walks away from the election ticket. And he thinks we got no announcement yet because everybody is still playing poker with all his other family members.
So Bidens whole family mess could suddenly get off, as they work hard to put Trump in prison. Then Democraps put Newsom on the ticket and "take their chances"? I don't see it quite like that. All this war, just to doink the field goal. No, I think they are working on more insurance than that. They can certainly bribe Biden off the ticket. And they will have to come up with a big fat juicy bribe to get Kamala Harris off the ticket too. You have to know that her and every black vote won't walk away without free money. She can't just give a speech to the world saying "for the good of the country". That will start the black riot everywhere as people smell a rat. And we know how ugly black riots get. No, just making Joe walk away just won't cut it. May as well be handing everything to Trump. So they got to get Biden and Harris to stand up on world TV and announce Michelle Obama as president and Newsom as Vice President. Then Michelle can plan on doing nothing, as Barack Hussain and Newsom work to run the country with the puppet masters. As they continue to pound on Trump. Yup, nobody just quits. We are going to have more historic shenanigans being played to make all this possible. Shenanigans that may in time come out. Because it's being said that Bidens pit bull prosecutor is being held back. And he will eventually have a story to tell.
But even this is a mess. The Trump prosecution thing is making Trump even more famous. To the point where Trump might pardon himself out of prison and clean Democrap clocks. And if somehow another GOP candidate is helped to take the vote from Trump, then Democraps may loose even worse. So it has to be the ugliest Trump they can make, versus Democrap royalty with brain power at her side. A Democrap with brains. I just don't see one.
So as I posted, the Democraps are in a really bad mess, and more tricks is all they got. If the GOP gets it's way, we could be in for scandal that puts Watergate to shame. And the Obamas may want nothing to do with it. The Obamas see it all, and they are not dumb. And they may not have as much to do with Biden as people are thinking. And that could explain why Michelle Obama is so invisible these days. Yup. It's lookin like Democraps are stuck with "Weekend at Bernies" meets "The Teflon Don".
Anyways, Trump was gagged by the New York judge from making any mention of his staff. His lawyers were gagged the same way. While they helplessly watched the judges law clerk continually whisper into the judges ear. Trumps lawyers already have a picture of the same law clerk doing a selfie with Democrap Chuck Schumer, who heads the Senates efforts against Trump. So since Trump and his team are force to watch the interaction going on in court, and are barred from any inquiry about it, they filed objections and appeals to reclaim Trumps fair rights in the matter. But the process channel available to Trump directly is slow and twisty. Amazingly, Congresswoman Elise Stefanik has other channels of appeals available to her, and she filed her own appeal on Trumps behalf. And she got a very quick response. After just an hour long hearing, the appeals judge suspended Trumps New York gag order pending further investigation. Very interesting.
It was mentioned by Trumps team that the judges law clerk had also made political donations to Democrapic functions in violation of New York law. The jugdes gag order barred the Trump side from ever mentioning it again. So Trump was ordered by the court to not utter to anybody that his law clerk may have broken the law. That's what is going on in the New York court. So that's why it only took an hour for another judge to put a stop to this judges ruling. The other appeals channel Trumps team was forced to use has not even gotten to the matter. So it's pretty clear that things are not very balanced for Trump. So if the Florida judge is tipping the scales the other way, so be it. In America, there has to be balance in our justice system. Equal justice for all. And if that justice is not in balance in any particular room, then that balance must be restored in some other room. Even if the room is in Florida.
So that kinda pisses on those naysayers claiming 2 wrongs don't make a right. Judges everywhere have lots of discretion all over the place. And that's why the New York judge can legally piss all over Trump. And the Florida judge can legally piss all over New York. Because it's America, the worlds biggest pissing contest. hah.
As for the New York law clerk, it has been discovered that she donated thousands of dollars more than New York law allows. So Trump can't be gagged from complaining and demanding investigations. And if appeals refused to see it that way, the Supreme Court would have been forced to step in. So it was a no brainer for the appeals court Stefanic used.
As for Bidens charges, there's no charges. And the Florida judge is clearly aware of it. So while she post pones trial date decisions, she will be at her discretion to figure out a legal way to add balance to Trumps classified documents charges. In America, there's just too many people to let some go while trying to imprison others. The appeals process along the way will have to work out the imbalance.
As for Colorados trial to keep Trump off the ballot, Jack Smith showed up and filed an argument in this state civil case. What the hell is Smith doing messing around with this case? Seems he argued that Trump is not criminally charged, but he is clearly responsible for insurrection on Jan 6. So Smith entered into evidence his claim to the court. And this court does not require reasonable doubt. Just that something is likely to have occurred. And that's why Smith filed his argument. He entered evidence that Trump "likely" committed insurrection. And that ruling is all that is needed to keep Trump off the ballot, in a civil trial. So they claim.
But, it aint that simple. First off, there's no such thing as an insurrection charge. It was a word used in the civil war days to keep southerners out of the government. It was a temporary amendment that could not be enforced permanently. And that's why Trump can't be barred. It was deactivated long ago. Because there's no crime of insurrection. People long ago could have appealed it at the time, but no northern court would even listen to a southerner. That's that balance in the room thing going on. The north freed the slaves, and won the war to enforce it. And no Southern legal trick was going to even be tolerated. Back in those days, our legal system wasn't as fleshed out, and there was not a thing called due process. But the Supreme Court evolved and so did the laws. So due process required that the 14th amendment be deactivated. And it's been that way ever since. And it can't be reactivated with the way our laws work today.
So a bunch of waste went on in Colorado as haters tried more Constitution twisting tricks to get Trump. Calling Trump and company insurrectionists for following legal idiots. Even worse, the legal lynch mob arrested Trump and company with other Constitution twisting tricks to end all their lives behind bars. Because there aint no law called insurrection to arrest them with. And it ended in the failure that the Constitution demanded. So why not call all these legal idiots in Colorado insurrectionists? That's what they do to all Trumps people. Trying what JFKs people did long ago. And I really don't know if they actually got it wrong. They took away attorney client privilege and charged them over what they talked about. How unConstitutional is that? The way they say it now, you cant even ask your lawyer if doing something is illegal. It's now "intent" to commit a crime. Holly shit. So at worst, Trump and company deserve the same penalty as all these legal idiots in Colorado that got it wrong. And I don't see anybody that attacked Trump here, looking to pay any penalty at all. The hater Jack Smith included.
Folks, I am not a "turn the other cheek" type of dude. The law lets you counter sue people that sue you and cost you time and treasure. The same should go for crooked cops that pull all these stunts. Because we are all in serious shit, when cops can do the twisty twist on you and you can't afford to fight back. Trump is only winning because he has a nationwide donation machine that rakes in millions of dollars a day. So Trump can afford to fight the crooks trying to take away his business and $250 million dollars. Other people like Diddy have to settle in less than 24 hours because they can't afford the fight. I talk about Diddy further down. So I really don't see any justice going on right now. These days our "justice system" has become no better than these flash mobs that are going crazy. Cops doing the smash and grab on anybody they hate.
So Trump pays the bills and walks away with a sign that says Jack Smith and the corrupt DOJ is all over the country, coordinating all the election interference attacks on Trump, from all directions. It's a sign that can't be denied. A sign that cost a mint that the Supreme Court can clearly see. And Trump aint the only one that paid. The taxes paid all those cops and court because they didn't learn all the laws in law school. And from what I see in the libtard media, this whole country is full of idiot lawyers that graduated law school without knowing the laws. And people barfing out bad law need to pay for their mistakes. Just like bad doctors have to pay. Bad doctors are getting sued all the time. But you never hear about lawyers and Prosecutors getting sued. Actual cops are getting sued. But that's only because they can't deny what the smartphones are recording. Clearly something big in America is broke. And only Trump is armed well enough to fix it.
Amazingly, Trump would never win Colorado anyway. So all this ***** is really about the TV show. And that's it. Then people like Jack Smith and Chris Christie can spew their crooked hate, that would rather keep stabbing on Trump, than protecting America from socialism. And everybody else has to pay for all this *****. Now for the headline the haters dreaded.
Colorado judge finds Trump engaged in 'insurrection' but allows him on ballot
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-judge-allows-trump-primary-002823400.html
Well there you go. Legal action so fast that nobody else would figure it possible. That alone shows how rigged America is. Astounding how quick this went. And while other courts that knew the law threw this out immediately, this court milked the crap "into" it and still couldn't make it work. Trump is now free to loose in Colorado, like he always did. Trump is not a drug user. So those people will never relate to him. As for what the judge "said", she is like anybody else, free to speak what she thinks. And she is free to say she "found" something in a trial that doesn't need something to actually "find", hah. You can only really "find" things in a criminal trial. Because if you really didn't "find" it in a criminal trial, then the counter suits will be flying, as they should.
So in time, the true colors of crap gets clearer and clearer. If it wasn't already crystal clear in the first place. Trump is right. The American system is totally rigged, and we need to unite if we are to throw the bums out. Because the crooks have stolen so much power that it will take all of us to beat them back.
Oh wow. We gotta mention Diddy. He got hit with the same New York law they made to get Trump. And Diddy feels like it's not fair. A woman from the "anals" of history claims Diddy long ago assaulted all her orifices. And she wanted money to shut up. Diddy offered her an 8 figure payday, and she turned it down. The courts are already ripping 8 figures out of Trump, so she wants more. "On top" of that, she said there are witnesses involved that got a really close look at the situation. And even made videos she wants "subpenised". My oh my. Diddy has lawyers and they told him his goose was cooked. Just like Trump. It's the Get Trump law after all. It's a stupid law if it couldn't get Trump. So Diddy was screwed. She said it, and that's all that's required to win. And she said she even has more. So Diddy saw the shit storm quick and gave her what she wanted. More than the 8 figures she was offered. The costs of being rich.
So the Trump law expires next week. And it's amazing why half of New York hasn't already sued the other half under the Trump law. Seems to show the collective stupidity of New York people. Maybe too distracted by the illegals invasion, hah. Hard to say if suits like these don't spark a wave of strikes by the hooker industry. Wanting pay more like what these hoes get for gold digging on rich people. I wonder if guys can get away with the same thing. Telling a jury that our lives are ruined because she sat on our faces. Diddys life is already made, so he better hope other states don't make this kind of crazy law. Because you got to figure that Diddy has a train of women he has paid in the past. Eventually the Supreme Court may have to rule on laws like these. And it could be that Trump is the man to push for action. Because he's the only person right now fighting back. Trumps our man, if he can't do it, nobody can.
Nobody will ever know the whole story here. But I see what real ***** victims look like when they run to cops, after they been *****d. And then I see all these gold digger "*****" victims. And they don't look anything like each other. And this is not even a criminal charge. So I got no reason to think Diddy *****d this woman, and it's a shame that other people are being victimized by the get Trump ***** law. To me it's lookin like another form of flash mob smash and grab. Something else that Trump needs to fix.
Diddy Eviscerated Online For Settling Cassie’s Bombshell Lawsuit Within 24 Hours
https://allhiphop.com/news/diddy-settles-cassie-bombshell-lawsuit/
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Looking at the replay of the SpaceX launch and it looks like there may have been engine system explosions on both halfs of the vehicle. They were both pretty empty on fuel, so they could have had the same problem. Sucking in air all the sudden into turbo pumps. They don't like to do that. Being a new vehicle setup, they may not have gotten it right to avoid running dry. The booster exploded after flipping rapidly around. That could have sloshed the remaining fuel around too quickly, and then boom. 3 engines were still running at the time. The upper stage ran and ran till it reached space and ran low on fuel. It was not gaining altitude, so it was now flying horizontal. Microgravity could have made those engines suck in air. It appears like maybe one engine exploded while the others kept going. Then it appears like another exploded, as it started to loose altitude. Then shortly after all engines went dark and the data stopped coming in. They called out terminate while engines were still running, so the control room was seeing problems. None of that is any big deal and SpaceX will just have to review the fuel metering setup to make sure all those bases are covered. These are new engines, so there even could be engine bugs that still need to be worked out. But for as long as so many engines ran, there is just not a whole lot wrong with what went on. Nothing seemed to go out of control in any of the video. So their flight systems seemed spot on for as far as it went. And their launch pad went a hell of a lot better than last time. So it's clear that SpaceX has the worlds biggest rocket design that will be in tweeking mode. And it could possible land on the moon in as little as 2 years from now. Geez. SpaceX is a private company so nobody can kick Musk out of this national achievement. I hear the Chat-GDP guy was just fired from his company for no obvious reason. It could be that their success is now being hijacked by others grabbing at control. It would not be the first time that power grabs shook things up like that.
RE: stts2's politics thread - Ahmet - Nov 20, 2023
You call my people terrorist. Zionists kill women, *****ren. Take land.
You lie.
RE: stts2's politics thread - stts2 - Nov 21, 2023
(Nov 20, 2023, 17:32 pm)Ahmet Wrote: You call my people terrorist. Zionists kill women, *****ren. Take land.
You lie.
Well, you know. this is an argument born from cultural brain washing. If I had a solution to this argument, I would be the king of something, or I would be dead. That is how hard and earth changing this kind of problem is. I, and nobody else was born in the times when "Zionists kill women, *****ren. Take land". So clearly I didn't lie about anything. Since nobody has yet achieved extended life spans, we are all born as empty brains, and all we know is programmed into us by our parents and the culture that we grow up in. My parents cared nothing about anybodies religion, and my culture programmed me with the Christian Bible and the history that goes with it. Mosses, Jesus, Hebrews, Romans, Chariot races, Arabs, etc,etc.
It looks like your programming was Islamic, Quran, Zion hate, etc, etc. Now. I don't brain wash very easily. I can be fooled for a span of time, but I will eventually discover the facts necessary to understand truth, and run my life accordingly. But I have learned that people in general everywhere are programmed from birth with erroneous information, and it is extremely hard for most of those people to somehow correct all their erroneous programming. And that's a very big problem for all of Human society. It creates actions and reactions in human society that are not based in fact. So human society as a whole has a hard time gaining more benefit from the actions of erroneous programming. It's an unfortunate thing for humans.
Now given this fact, clearly neither of us is a liar about the history that you spoke. Nobody has yet to agree on what history is the correct history. And so each person is programmed to react in todays life with the history of our different programmings. And we have created many laws to promote a peaceful conduct of human society. So we must agree to follow those laws of today, as we figure out how to correct the programming of yesterday. Unfortunately the programming problems of yesterday are so great, that the laws of today are not perfect solutions to the problems of bad programming. So the laws are always being improved.
As for history, it can't be settled until we all agree on whether the 20th century control of Middle east lands, or the Biblical times control of the middle east lands is the facts to agree on. And I have no power to decide that for all mankind. So until somebody with power can finally make that decision for all people on earth, we must respect the laws of today to promote the continuing slow evolution of peaceful human society.
As for today, terrorists broke out of a border walled city and killed over a thousand unarmed and helpless people. There is no denying that fact in todays video society. Laws of human peace have been broken and there are now other more violent laws that must be followed to right the wrongs of the laws violators. There simply is no question about the actions of today. But the brainwashing continues. So all eyes must remain on the situation so that the laws continue to be followed in this very difficult situation, as best as possible. Nothing is perfect in human society, but we must at least make the effort to right the wrongs as productively as possible. And that is what is going on now.
Once the terrorist threat has been "deactivated", so that this kind of law violation can't happen again, then society can enforce other laws that restores justice and trust that all societies need. Then we can get back to the slow improvement of the society of all mankind. And we must agree to program the futures birth of empty brains, with the actual facts of human history, so that they can be better prepared to make things better themselves. All this Fake News brainwashing is literally tearing human society apart.
So I will continue to post on the facts of today and the facts of human history, as best as I can. Because I have a very bad imagination, and it is very hard for me to invent brainwashing that won't make people laugh at me.
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Now as far as my personal opinion, I think I could be like King Solomon in all of this. I'm an unbribable Atheist. I don't have a dog in any of these hunts. So I could be highly qualified to rule on the solution to who owns the Middle East. The way I see it, history is a rough guide to how we build the future. The actual details don't really matter much, because things change so much. Like having laws about horse shit in city streets. We don't use horses like that any more. So now we have different laws that makes everybody bag up even dog dooky they leave behind. No crap of any kind allowed on most every property except farm land.
But religion is a different thing entirely. It is so involved with human society that the religious books have been reprinted for thousands of years. So the way I see it, religion simply can't be ignored. And our founding fathers felt the same way. It's a part of the first Amendment of our Constitution. So given that, we simply can't say that the Middle East events of the 20th century have to be the sole dictator of laws of mankind for all the future. We have to consider the ownership that has been printed in these religious books for thousands of years. And we have to also consider the wrongs that have been documented in these books. And it's not like we never acted like this before. The Germans stole everything from Jews everywhere. And to this day, our laws hunt down this stolen property from everywhere, to try to repatriate it to the people it was stolen from. And that's the way I see it. We in society have people that want to be paid to be diplomats and negotiators. And they do so, representing all the peoples on all sides. I as King Solomon would rule that all these negotiators be summoned into a large room with negotiating resources. And also, all the food and water that they could want. I would then have all the doors locked and fire trucks stationed all around it. If a fire breaks out, the firemen will quickly put it out. No sweat. And the negotiators would then stay in that room until it is negotiated by majority decision as to who owns the Middle East. And I would order that nobody would leave the room till that is complete. Then I as King stts2, would rule that the majority decision of all the people, as announced by the negotiators, would become law. It's long past time that negotiators earn their pay, and settle this argument, so the killing of people can stop, once and for all. And I don't care if it takes years. The food will never run out, and their pay would be auto deposit. If they want to go out and buy Ferraris, then they will have to settle this Middle East problem first. Yes, there are arguments over whose say has more weight than someone elses say, but that is also a matter for those overpaid negotiators and the people they represent. Everything has to be settled before the doors are torn down.
And that is what King stts2 would rule. But it doesn't change what already happened. The terrorists have to face justice, the laws would have to decide who is a terrorist, and that land based battle ship has to be destroyed. Of course even the type of justice could be factored in to the final negotiations. Because the most important goal is brotherhood and the end of human hostility. And nothing should be off the table to win that goal.
RE: stts2's politics thread - rezwaki - Nov 21, 2023
(Nov 20, 2023, 17:32 pm)Ahmet Wrote: You call my people terrorist. Zionists kill women, *****ren. Take land.word up, *****ing Zionists cancer of the earth.. stts restore justice what you talking about? who Israeli government restore justice? you serious? Look at how Arabs live there and wake up
You lie.
RE: stts2's politics thread - stts2 - Nov 21, 2023
(Nov 21, 2023, 09:27 am)rezwaki Wrote:(Nov 20, 2023, 17:32 pm)Ahmet Wrote: You call my people terrorist. Zionists kill women, *****ren. Take land.word up, *****ing Zionists cancer of the earth.. stts restore justice what you talking about? who Israeli government restore justice? you serious? Look at how Arabs live there and wake up
You lie.
Word up? You posted one sentence without even a period. How can that possibly change my life? Educate me. I'm totally unbiased. Explain to me why I need to hate Zions. What makes them the cancer of the earth? I have not been able to get anybody to explain to me what is so bad about Zionists. People simply say they are bad. That is not enough for me. I know from history taught to me that Egypt enslaved the Hebrews, they "got" their freedom, wandered around without GPS for 40 years, settled in the "promised land", the Romans moved in, did not like Hebrew way of life, set the stage to crusify Jesus, Romans conquered the Hebrews, Jews, Levites, and Israelites and ran them out into the desert, they all lived nomadic likes for hundreds and hundreds of years, slowly congregated in the Israeli area along with other Arab nomades, Britain invaded with a UN charter to "civilize" the desert land, WW2 started and destroyed the Jews in Europe, Britains charter ran out and the UN body gave the desert lands to the European Jew in need of shelter. A slow migration took place, Jews quickly built towns for all their people, living along with the Arab nomades there. Basically adding their numbers to the Jews already settled there. The surrounding Arab countries got jealose that the Jews were really making something great out of the desert, the Arab countries eventually attacked the Jews, the Jews had already built defenses and womped ass, the Jew could no longer trust the Arabs in their midst and moved them to Gaza, endless attacks ensued and more short wars for half a century until today. With Jews doing what they can to keep security with their nation. And new chapters yet to be written.
So where is the cancer? I know there was Cancer in Germany. The Nazis. They really torn up the bulk of the Jewish population. I know that Israel has been attacked time and again, from Egyptions, Romans, Germans, and Arabs. But nobody says anything concrete as to why they attacked the Jews. A really good reason. We attacked Japan for a very good reason. Because they attacked us. We eventually nuked them, and nobody knows how many babies were vaporized in our attack. And we were not counting. We were attacked and every day the Japanese kept fighting is more days where more people were brutally killed the Japanese way. The Japanese quit killing when we nuked them. Germany was too populated to nuke so we battled it out after it was clear that Germans were too thinned out to win the war.
So you see, Germans and Japanese were more like Cancers. What the hell is wrong with Jews? They have had millions killed. They will not allow their numbers to be killed like that again. And that seems understandable to me. And they are not even aggrivating with their religion. Christians are real pests with their evangelical ways. Jews keep it to themselves. Like friendly neighbors. I mean that is what I have noticed.
As for today, Israel has been enduring rocket attacks for over a decade. Just endless rockets landing anywhere and everywhere in Israel. They invented their "iron dome" to help protect themselves. And they did their best to blockade supplies from getting to the lands where the rockets are coming from. This year has finally crossed the line of no return. Israel is invading and destroying anything that do with rockets, war, hostages, and hate of Israel. And how can I blame Israel? I need a long list of good reasons to justify invading Israel, killing a thousand people festivaling, and taking hundreds back for god knows what treatment.
Ok. I'm all ears. Educate me. I promise I will consider all serious complaints as to why Israel has to get the "river to the sea" treatment. And I want complete education. It's an important subject. We got a whole war going on because of it. So explain to me what is demanded for "river to the sea" treatment.
RE: stts2's politics thread - rezwaki - Nov 21, 2023
I'm not here to educate you man I'm way past trying to change peoples mind. It wasn't the "desert" there was people living there. Why Zionists are the cancer of the earth? Quite simple: decades long crimes against humanity. Zionists isn't the same as jews either so don't conflate them please. What's next gonna call me anti-semite? Yeah I think I 've seen that before.
RE: stts2's politics thread - Ahmet - Nov 21, 2023
No justice for Palestine. Many many years my people suffer die. Land taken.
Israel genocide. Israel apartheid state.
Israel kill 13,000 in month. Women *****ren.
Israel American bomb kill aunt two cousins...tears...anger. Family land taken with olive trees...tears...anger.
You support Israel you support suffering for Palestine. You support apartheid genocide.
RE: stts2's politics thread - stts2 - Nov 21, 2023
(Nov 21, 2023, 11:19 am)rezwaki Wrote: I'm not here to educate you man I'm way past trying to change peoples mind. It wasn't the "desert" there was people living there. Why Zionists are the cancer of the earth? Quite simple: decades long crimes against humanity. Zionists isn't the same as jews either so don't conflate them please. What's next gonna call me anti-semite? Yeah I think I 've seen that before.
I don't see any point in calling people names. This is a big problem that needs serious talk of understanding. There's no room for useless names in stuff like this. That is why all this crazy protesting will get nowhere. Zions support maintaining Israel as it is. A movement created at the end of the 19 century to spread the word to the then scattered Jewish populations to head back to the lands the Romans chased them out of. I figured all Jews would have the same belief, but I will keep a distinction from now on. As for decades long crimes, that is most definitely a contested issue. Israel has the right to defend themselves. And they have been doing it effectively. Now they have been attacked again. A large attack. I assume with a goal in mind. The goal of winning the attack. And gaining something from the attack. But Iran has turned it's back on the attack. Egypt has closed it's border and it takes arm twisting to even let aid thru their border. So everything about this attack seems tragic and senseless. Because Israel is fed up now. And they are on the attack like flies on crap. Israel can't walk away from this, and there won't be any negotiations for a long time till Israel can cool off. And the whole Gaza strip will be torn up in the hunt to get those hostages back, dead or alive. And the videos that we get now, makes it easier to show the world why Gaza has to be torn up. So the ugly won't stop for quite awhile. And Israel may chose to stay as occupiers to hunt every nook and cranny for weapons and destroy all tunnels.
That is the reality we have now. And more people are going to die from this disarming of a people that Israel can't trust. And then when things cool down, only after all the hostages are removed, nobody knows what will happen next. Who is going to rebuild? Who will pay to rebuild? Who SHOULD pay to rebuild? Should it be rebuilt?
You see, it's just a mess now, and people need to stop with the names and start talking about solutions. There was a treaty about to happen with Saudi Arabia, progress between Arabs and Jews, but that is all a mess now. And Gaza will effectively be destroyed by the time this is over. How can what has happen now, end up being better for the people left in Gaza?
So I'm left to believe that other Arab nations used the people of Gaza to stir up hate and then left the trapped nation to hopelessly fend for itself. And Gaza is the looser. Because they never could beat Israel in a battle for whatever they wanted. The "river to the sea" thing.
Ukraine is in a useless situation, but they didn't actually start their trouble. But it's still a useless situation, and their "help" is running out. So they have time to plan an escape. And the world will welcome their escape. Visas for all and welfare to get them started. Gaza has none of that. They are utterly trapped. And the videos that will be seen world wide will leave few people in the rest of the world willing to help dig them out. Even with all that new cash Iran has.
Anyways, as long as people can sit down and face realities, there can always be solutions worked up. But this reality we got now will take a very long time to fix, and lots of people won't live long enough to see a rebirth of some kind. And I am left shaking my head. It didn't have to be this way. Saudi Arabia probably would have improved the whole Gaza situation. That's all gone now.
(Nov 21, 2023, 12:08 pm)Ahmet Wrote: No justice for Palestine. Many many years my people suffer die. Land taken.
Israel genocide. Israel apartheid state.
Israel kill 13,000 in month. Women *****ren.
Israel American bomb kill aunt two cousins...tears...anger. Family land taken with olive trees...tears...anger.
You support Israel you support suffering for Palestine. You support apartheid genocide.
I am sorry that you have personal loss in this war. I wish none of this happened. I wish missiles didn't hit Israel. I wish motorcycle men didn't fire machine guns into a music festival. I wish people watching TV in their homes were not set on fire. I wish nothing happened on Oct 7 and I wish Israel was on World TV signing a treaty with Saudi Arabia. Because then I am sure relations between Gaza and Israel would have been better. And nobody would be killed.
Now Bombs fall to destroy tunnels. Tunnels that store weapons of war against Israel. There are hundreds of Kilometers of tunnels that take many many bombs to destroy. And the building have to be destroyed too because there are soldiers in the buildings. So now Gaza people are being killed when the bombs explode. And it would not be happening if there was no attack on Israel on Oct 7.
I support Israels right to get their hostages back from Gaza. And bombs are helping to make that happen. There is talk of a cease fire to get hostages back. So the bombs may help Israel get some of their people back. I hope so. It's a shame to bomb everything, and find that there is nobody left alive when the bombing stops.
It's not genocide. It's people trying to get their family members back. The bombing would stop if all the hostages are returned. I am sure of it. But Israel will still remove all weapons from Gaza. So that Gaza will not take hostages again.
RE: stts2's politics thread - rezwaki - Nov 21, 2023
Israel has the right to defend themselves
no it does not, occupying force got no business "defending" itself....because it's not defending itself
as for it getting "attacked" warfare against occupiers is fine with me and international law if it had ever worked that is...same thing as with Russia except here the western world mainly the US failed miserably
I am sorry that you have personal loss in this war. I wish none of this happened. I wish missiles didn't hit Israel. I wish motorcycle men didn't fire machine guns into a music festival
^^^^
yeah and I wish a zionist state did not oppress a whole people for five plus decades but hey you get what you deserve after all don't you think?
Now Bombs fall to destroy tunnels. Tunnels that store weapons of war against Israel.
^ ahhh those tunnels under the hospitals that no one saw? And the terrorist "guard" list which turned out to be a calendar? Thanks..this a good joke
and just to clarify I'm not saying there's no tunnels, but Israel don't give a flying ***** about the tunnels and Hamas in reality. Zero proofs given so far. Even the hospital strike claims that Israel has made have been debunked even by the NY times.. Hamas is a ***** of that sick zionist state's policies and unfortunately you will not get rid of Hamas by genociding the people in any way if anything you'll create another one
it was also recently confirmed by Israeli own media that a number of civilian casualties/victims from that music festival was due to the Israeli bomb targeting Hamas that failed to differentiate between Hamas and Israeli citizens
RE: stts2's politics thread - stts2 - Nov 21, 2023
(Nov 21, 2023, 14:33 pm)rezwaki Wrote: Israel has the right to defend themselves
no it does not, occupying force got no business "defending" itself....because it's not defending itself
as for it getting "attacked" warfare against occupiers is fine with me and international law if it had ever worked that is...same thing as with Russia except here the western world mainly the US failed miserably
I am sorry that you have personal loss in this war. I wish none of this happened. I wish missiles didn't hit Israel. I wish motorcycle men didn't fire machine guns into a music festival
^^^^
yeah and I wish a zionist state did not oppress a whole people for five plus decades but hey you get what you deserve after all don't you think?
Now Bombs fall to destroy tunnels. Tunnels that store weapons of war against Israel.
^ ahhh those tunnels under the hospitals that no one saw? And the terrorist "guard" list which turned out to be a calendar? Thanks..this a good joke
and just to clarify I'm not saying there's no tunnels, but Israel don't give a flying ***** about the tunnels and Hamas in reality. Zero proofs given so far. Even the hospital strike claims that Israel has made have been debunked even by the NY times.. Hamas is a ***** of that sick zionist state's policies and unfortunately you will not get rid of Hamas by genociding the people in any way if anything you'll create another one
it was also recently confirmed by Israeli own media that a number of civilian casualties/victims from that music festival was due to the Israeli bomb targeting Hamas that failed to differentiate between Hamas and Israeli citizens
Yup, bombs kill anybody near. Even Israelis. That's why Israel drops papers saying get out of the way. I saw it on streaming video. A million papers floating down from the air.
As for Arab feelings about Jews getting their homeland back, nothing is going to change. Jews will nuke everybody before they loose their country. And we are the same way. Anybody tries to take America, we will shoot all our weapons. And if that don't work, we will shoot all our nukes. And Russia will do the same thing. That is why we can't help Ukraine. Ukraine should have helped themselves. Now all they can do is run or die. It's their choice.
And now I hear there will be a cease fire to get back hostages. So bombing works. It destroys weapons, and makes the looser surrender hostages. Maybe this is the time to talk surrender and justice. Before ALL of Gaza is totally destroyed. Because Arabs can't win against Israel. They haven't in decades. Israel always wins the war.
Arabs need to face reality and work out a peace treaty. Before Israel wins the next war too. Israel wins all wars now. Learn this and find a better solution before everybody dies. Make a treaty to agree that Israel is back in their home lands that were stolen long ago. Arabs today are angry Israel stole their lands back, but it was the UN that gave Israel empty territory back. But Arabs ignore that they were occupying stolen Israeli land.
All you people need to face reality and make a treaty to agree on SOMETHING that ends the fighting. This attack by Gaza didn't help anything at all. It was a total waste. And now Arabs are worse off. Be smart and make a real treaty for peace. Then everything can get better.