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This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RobertX - Jun 05, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvHyBAB_kvA
Very heartbreaking; he's a friend of the Youtube VLOGger and the deceased person was lied into enlisting.
Putin must be stopped!
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RodneyYouPlonker - Jun 05, 2023
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RobertX - Jun 05, 2023
Well, my post showed that you don't have to be pro-Ukraine to show that Putin must be stopped. The man's conscripting guys left and right, lying to them, saying that they won't be put to danger, but they were afterwards.
If you watched the video in the OP, the man who is talking about this stuff wasn't sucking Zelensky's dick, he was talking about his friend. He was not pro America, pro NATO or pro Zelensky, he wasn't wearing Blue and Yellow, he was talking about how the Russian military lied to his friend and neither was I.
Just like the National Security Law in Hong Kong, just like China's upcoming was with Taiwan and USA, and just like the war in Iraq in 2003, the "Special Operations" riffraff is based on lies.
EDIT: If I may add, I'll add this: whatever side you're on, whoever you're fighting in your personal Jihad, just make sure you're not going to lose your humanity. Whether you're pro Putin or pro Zelensky, hope that your leader or your God will not send you to kill. See RodneyYouPlonker, I disagree strongly to your opinions about the Special Operations, but I wish you no harm. I hope the feeling's mutual.
EDIT: The more I think about this, the more I am reminded about this Star Trek episode: "Let that Be Your Last Battlefield." It's about two members of two races, both with different complexion on either face, but both looking just alike otherwise. They would seize the USS Enterprise but they are not on the same side. they are trying to get the ship and crew to do their bidding to destroy the other guy. Anyhow, I won't spoil it except to say that that it was Gene Roddenberry's response to the Vietnam War, and I would watch it to reflect on the current war between Russia and Ukraine. The episode again is "Let that Be Your Last Battlefield." I know there aren't much Trekkers here in SuprBay, but give it a chance, try it out.
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RodneyYouPlonker - Jun 06, 2023
The problem these days is more and more people should listen to what Katie Hopkins says because she speaks a lot of truth about a lot of things and especially because she has been in the military herself she has a good background in understanding these matters. Like she said it's very much a celebrity hotspot is Ukraine now and she's not wrong. There's too much left in politics these days ever since Joe Biden got into power suddenly the whole world went mad, are you surprised because I'm not. You can buy into all this stuff it's easy but the majority of it is all propaganda and lies and we're being fed it all through a tube on a daily basis. People need to wake up and realise that it's all a power race and nothing more and America want to capitalise and show and flex its muscles on how great they are. Really Ukraine and Russia have been fighting on and off for hundreds of years now so it's nothing new. It has nothing to do with the West and Nato should have kept their nose out from day one, Ukraine was never a part of Nato and that was for a reason if anything Zelensky has thrown his country under the bus. I have spent quality time in Russia and you know what I loved it there the place is stacked with history and great people live there. Don't buy into the nonsense of the Left and America as that's what they want you to do and sadly this is what is happening right now. Katie Hopkins has got the whole thing figured out to a T.
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RobertX - Jun 06, 2023
T for what? Tosh?
The man I linked to is a Russian, emphasis to the word "a." The man, and many others that are of his nationality saw the writing on the wall way before the "military operations."
I do acknowledge that there are fools talking for the Ukrainian government, like the guy drinking his piss. But the truth is there are more Russians who don't want to conscript in a war founded on lies. If you want check out NFKRZ's podcast, check out the blog that links to the "Big Brother" speech that a Russian celebrity made. Nobody in the crowd gave a shit. That's why a majority of the Russians aren't fooled by Putin's promise to an Orwellian utopia where the throne will smile over the Russian Federation and its people. Hell, even Xi Jinping is finding out that Putin is full of shit himself. Perhaps China will put off invading Taiwan for another century? Haha, maybe.
My point is, your advocate was a military personnel, but the one that I think speaks for most Russians is the "The Russian Dude" who really doesn't want to give in to the red hate, drank the piss beer, and found out it wasn't so good.
EDIT: For your viewing pleasure: https://pirates-forum.org/Thread-What-Russians-Themselves-Think-of-Their-Own-Government-s-Propaganda-Machine
EDIT: The truth is, maybe Ukraine is wrong, maybe Zelensky is wrong, maybe Biden is wrong. There are so many contradictory sources such that I don't know who is telling the truth. All I know is that the man I linked to don't want more bloodshed. He just wants his friends to come home so he can come home. He did say Putin is a liar because he is, or he wouldn't be sending talented people that don't design weapons of death to make more deaths. I don't know what you'll link to next, but we're not past the pandemic and there's so much war going around in this world, such as Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, China, and even the Korean conflict too. Death is good for the video games, just not with real people.
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RodneyYouPlonker - Jun 06, 2023
At the end of the day you are watching somebody on youtube and you have no idea who this person is you just believe anything they tell you. You don't actually know this person in real life or what's really happened you weren't actually there yourself. You're just watching somebody on a streaming site and that's all it is. There's like a billion videos on youtube and that's just one video out of many. How do you even know it's all real it could have been staged they could be telling you anything. There's a lot of things gets put on youtube but the truth is you don't know if it's real or not all you can do is assume it's real and believe and buy into it.
I will admit I watch a lot of youtube myself and I enjoy watching people but I don't buy into everything I just watch it for entertainment purposes and it helps to pass the time when you're bored. TV is general the mainstream for example is full of lies and most people in the UK have woken up to all this anyway but there are people who haven't and sadly these are the dangerous ones who believe in everything they all told because they are made to behave like a good little sheep do this and do that and behave yourself and believe in Ukraine...
TV and all kinds of media these days are there to brainwash you and control you and it works very well and that's what people all buy into because they are scared and don't know what else to do and it all worries them. Kind of sad really but I guess it's 2023 now so what do you expect?
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RobertX - Jun 06, 2023
How are these people staging it?
I guess Kate Hopkins is not staging it because... she agrees with you?
EDIT: Besides, I don't watch TV except for video games and pirated videos. Nothing interesting, turn Raw on (A Nitro sign spelling out NITRO... get it?
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RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RodneyYouPlonker - Jun 06, 2023
(Jun 06, 2023, 03:10 am)RobertX Wrote: How are these people staging it?
I guess Kate Hopkins is not staging it because... she agrees with you?
I've know Katie Hopkins for years and years. I know who she is she's famous all over and she goes around talking about things all the time so I know her a lot. This guy on the other hand could be an actor, I mean look at the video for starters it's not had that many views he's had about 2 and half hundred thousand which isn't that much really. It's a fair amount of views but you don't know what this guy is doing he could be an actor you just don't know he might have been put there on purpose and made to says things.
Katie Hopkins I know her from all kinds of places and she's been around for such a long time now and that is what she does she makes videos and tells people her opinion all the time. Maybe because you're not British you don't understand what she's all about. People just need to wake up that's all it's that simple. Probably at the moment, in Ukraine there is probably not a great deal happening right now but what they want you to believe is something completely different... They want you to hate Putin and I guess it has worked because it's worked on you and you have bought into it massively.
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - RobertX - Jun 06, 2023
OK, well, I guess the argument is with you... you've been watching her videos for years.
There are videos that are out there that espouses propaganda and they have been around for years. Neo Nazism wasn't an overnight effort. It took years to make their underlings believe in the lies they were made to believe for a good long time. Take care that you do not fall in that trap.
For those who say Ukraine is all right, perhaps you can go there, get a camera man, and prove that? I guess the cities are fine because you or Kate said so.
So what is it that you know about Russia? Anything at all? And the "special military operations?"
EDIT: And one more thing: be wary of people who tell you their "opinions all the time," they may be entitled to their opinions, but not to the facts at hand.
RE: This Man's Friend Died in Ukraine (and he's a Russian) - CaptButler - Jun 06, 2023
(Jun 06, 2023, 02:28 am)RodneyYouPlonker Wrote: The problem these days is more and more people should listen to what Katie Hopkins says because she speaks a lot of truth about a lot of things and especially because she has been in the military herself she has a good background in understanding these matters.
[ . . . Blah, blah, blahbitty, blah, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit . . . ]
Katie Hopkins has got the whole thing figured out to a T.
:rofl:
Proof positive that Rodney is simply trolling here (again). The only thing that fascist spokescunt Katie Hopkins is a true expert on is the best spots to go dogging in Britain-- or maybe not even that-- she did get caught that one time, didn't she? A selection of the terrible truth about Katie Hopkins:
So, Rodney-- what are they paying at The Internet Research Agency nowadays?